{"id":35977,"date":"2014-11-22T02:21:11","date_gmt":"2014-11-22T00:21:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.kayiprihtim.org\/portal\/?page_id=35977"},"modified":"2014-11-22T12:20:04","modified_gmt":"2014-11-22T10:20:04","slug":"celik-magaralar-okur-yorumlari","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.kayiprihtim.org\/portal\/projeler\/biz-bunu-istiyoruz\/biz-bunu-istiyoruz-2-5-robot-serisi\/celik-magaralar-okur-yorumlari\/","title":{"rendered":"\u00c7elik Ma\u011faralar | Okur Yorumlar\u0131"},"content":{"rendered":"\n\n\n
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\u00c7EL\u0130K MA\u011eARALAR<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

OKUR YORUMLARI<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Jradoff<\/a><\/span> \u2013 12 Nisan 2014<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Bu kitaba 4 y\u0131ld\u0131z vermemin tek nedeni Asimov\u2019un kariyerinin daha ileriki zamanlar\u0131nda bu seri i\u00e7in yazd\u0131\u011f\u0131 di\u011fer kitaplar\u0131n (G\u00fcne\u015fin Tanr\u0131lar\u0131, \u015eafa\u011f\u0131n Robotlar\u0131) daha iyi olmas\u0131ndand\u0131r. Ama ba\u015flaman\u0131z gereken yer buras\u0131 \u2013 sak\u0131n ge\u00e7meyin. Kendi \u00e7ap\u0131nda d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fcr\u00fcc\u00fc ve e\u011flenceli bir kitap bu.<\/p>\n

Asimov bu seride polisiye t\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fc ve pek \u00e7ok f\u00fct\u00fcristik fikri bir araya getiriyor. Yeterince ya\u015fama alan\u0131 olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 i\u00e7in yerin alt\u0131nda ya\u015fayan ve bir zamanlar kendilerinin yapt\u0131klar\u0131 i\u015flerin robotlar taraf\u0131ndan ellerinden al\u0131nmas\u0131na k\u0131zm\u0131\u015f insanlar\u0131n d\u00fcnyas\u0131na giriyorsunuz. Sadece harika bir polisiye-macera deneyimi ya\u015famakla kalm\u0131yor, ayn\u0131 zamanda insan benzeri robotlar\u0131n ve Yery\u00fcz\u00fc\u2019n\u00fcn durmaks\u0131z\u0131n kentle\u015fmesinin toplumsal sonu\u00e7lar\u0131n\u0131 ke\u015ffediyorsunuz.<\/p>\n

Daneel Olivaw, yani dedektif Elijah Baley\u2019nin robot orta\u011f\u0131, spek\u00fclatif kurgunun en unutulmaz karakterlerinden biridir.<\/p>\n

Asimov okumaya ba\u015flamak i\u00e7in en uygun kitap bu. E\u011fer bunu severseniz, devam\u0131na kesinlikle bay\u0131lacaks\u0131n\u0131z demektir. Bu seriyi okuduktan sonra daha yava\u015f ba\u015flayan ama giderek \u00e7ok daha iyi bir h\u00e2le gelen ve en sonunda her \u015feyi toparlayarak Robot serisini okumu\u015f olanlar\u0131 \u00f6d\u00fcllendiren Vak\u0131f Serisi\u2019ni de mutlaka deneyin.<\/p>\n

[stextbox id=”info” caption=”Orijinali:” collapsing=”true” collapsed=”true”]The only reason I’ve rated this book only four stars is because some of Asimov’s later books in the same series, written later in his career (Naked Sun, Robots of Dawn) get even better. However, this is where you need to begin–don’t jump ahead. This is a thought-provoking and entertaining read in its own right.
\nAsimov combines the mystery genre and many of his futurist ideas together in this series. You’ll enter a world where people live underground because there isn’t enough living space, and where many people have grown resentful of robots that are taking over jobs that humans once held. Not only do you get to experience a great mystery-adventure, but you’re also exploring the social consequences of near-human robots and the continued urbanization of the Earth.
\nDaneel Olivaw, the robot partner to detective Elijah Baley, is one of the most memorable characters in the field of speculative fiction.
\nThis is the best place to start reading Asimov. If you enjoy this, you will absolutely love the sequels. After reading the Robots books, try the Foundation series, which starts slower but gets very good–and ultimately rewards readers of the Robot books by tieing it all together.<\/p>\n

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Barbara Saffer<\/strong><\/a><\/span> \u2013 27 Temmuz 2014<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Asimov olduk\u00e7a iyi bilinen bir bilimkurgu yazar\u0131d\u0131r ve bu kitab\u0131n normalde bilimkurgu ve dedektiflik hik\u00e2yelerinin bir \u201cf\u00fczyonu\u201d olmas\u0131 gerekiyor. G\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fc\u015fe g\u00f6re Asimov bilimkurgunun ba\u015fka t\u00fcrlerle de (kapa\u011fa bak\u0131l\u0131rsa) kar\u0131\u015fabilece\u011fini g\u00f6stermek istemi\u015f. Kurguda yer alan dedektif ortaklardan biri bir polis, di\u011feriyse olduk\u00e7a insans\u0131 bir robot. Ancak i\u015fin \u201csu\u00e7luyu ortaya \u00e7\u0131karma\u201d k\u0131sm\u0131 polisin \u00f6n\u00fcne gelen herkesi durmaks\u0131z\u0131n su\u00e7lamas\u0131na dayan\u0131yor gibi g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fcyor \u2013 \u015f\u00fcphelileri sorgulam\u0131yor bile. Pek ba\u015far\u0131l\u0131 bir \u201cf\u00fczyon\u201d de\u011fil… ama serinin di\u011fer kitaplar\u0131 daha iyi oluyor.<\/p>\n

[stextbox id=”info” caption=”Orijinali:” collapsing=”true” collapsed=”true”]Asimov is well known as a science fiction writer and this book is supposed to be a science fiction\/detective story “fusion” book. Apparently Asimov wanted to demonstrate that science fiction could meld with other genres (according to the book cover). The detective partners in the story are a cop and a very human-looking robot. But the “detection” seems to consist of the cop just accusing one person after another – he doesn’t even question suspects. Not such a good “fusion”… but later books in the series do get better.<\/p>\n

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Mycroftxxx<\/strong><\/a><\/span> \u2013 18 Temmuz 2014<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Bilimkurgunun en b\u00fcy\u00fck ustalar\u0131ndan biri taraf\u0131ndan yaz\u0131lm\u0131\u015f harika bir \u00f6yk\u00fc. G\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fcz\u00fcn bilimkurgular\u0131nda kullan\u0131lan \u00e7o\u011fu referans\u0131 anlamak i\u00e7in bu seriyi okuyun. Baz\u0131 eskimi\u015f fikirlere ra\u011fmen h\u00e2l\u00e2\u00a0\u00e7ekici bir \u00f6yk\u00fc. Art\u0131k Kindle’da da okuyabildi\u011fimiz i\u00e7in de mutluyum. Yine de ke\u015fke \u0130ngilizce konu\u015fan insanlar\u0131 i\u015fe alsalar da ben de bu kadar \u00e7ok then\/than they\u2019re\/their gibi imla hatas\u0131 bulmasam demeden de edemiyorum\u2026 Bunlar karton kapakl\u0131 bas\u0131mlarda yoktu.<\/p>\n

[stextbox id=”info” caption=”Orijinali:” collapsing=”true” collapsed=”true”]Great story written by one of the Masters of Sci-Fi. Read this series to understand all of the references to it through much of current day Sci-Fi. Even with some dated ideas it is still an engaging story. Glad it is now available on the Kindle. Although I wish they would hire people who know how to speak English so that I would not find so many then\/than they’re\/their errors. Which were not in the paperbacks I originally read.<\/p>\n

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cardboard 1D<\/span> \u2013 1 A\u011fustos 1999<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

\u00c7ok s\u0131\u011f, zoraki ve uyduruk. Aksiyon yok. Duygu yok. SIFIR N\u00dcFUS ARTI\u015eI i\u00e7in harika bir savunma! \u00d6ff.<\/p>\n

[stextbox id=”info” caption=”Orijinali:” collapsing=”true” collapsed=”true”]Too shallow, stiff and hokey. No action. No emotion. A great plea for ZERO POPULATION GROWTH! tho.<\/p>\n

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John S. Ryan “Scott Ryan”<\/strong><\/a> \u2013<\/span> 10 Eyl\u00fcl 2003<\/span><\/p>\n

John W. Campbell Jr., dedektif hik\u00e2yeleri\u00a0ve bilimkurgu t\u00fcrleri bir araya getirilemez demesiyle \u00fcnl\u00fcd\u00fcr. Ama Isaac Asimov bu kaliteli \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmas\u0131n\u0131 en sonunda ba\u015fka bir yay\u0131nc\u0131ya (_Galaxy_’den Horace Gold) sundu\u011funda ortaya \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u00fczere, Campbell yan\u0131l\u0131yordu.<\/p>\n

Asimov, Robot \u00f6yk\u00fclerinin \u00fczerine in\u015fa etti\u011fi bu kurguda bizi en unutulmaz iki karakteriyle tan\u0131\u015ft\u0131r\u0131r: Dedektif Elijah Baley (bir insan) ve R. Daneel Olivaw (bir robot). Bu ikili Asimov\u2019un sonraki eserlerinde galaktik tarihe ge\u00e7ecektir. Bu kitaptaysa sadece gizemleri \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcyorlar.<\/p>\n

Hik\u00e2ye New York\u2019un gelecekteki h\u00e2liyle ba\u015fl\u0131yor, ama bu \u201coturakl\u0131\u201d t\u00fcre yap\u0131lan\u00a0baz\u0131 selamlamalara ra\u011fmen, Asimov asl\u0131nda Mickey Spillane\u2019den ziyade Bayan Agatha Christie\u2019ye daha \u00e7ok \u015fey bor\u00e7ludur. Her ne olursa olsun,\u00a0daha fazla \u015fey anlat\u0131p okuma keyfinizi mahvetmeyece\u011fim.<\/p>\n

Asl\u0131nda bu kitaba \u015fimdi yorum yazma nedenim, onu Richard K. Morgan\u2019\u0131n \u201cAltered Carbon\u201d adl\u0131 muhte\u015fem eserinin okurlar\u0131na tavsiye etmek istemem. Larry Niven\u2019\u0131n ARM \u00f6yk\u00fclerinde, \u00e7ok k\u0131sa bir \u201cpolisiye bilimkurgusu\u201d vard\u0131r; temelini buradan al\u0131r. E\u011fer bu t\u00fcre birazc\u0131k bile ilgi duyuyorsan\u0131z bu kitab\u0131 okumak isteyeceksiniz. \u0130ki devam kitab\u0131 (G\u00fcne\u015fin Tanr\u0131lar\u0131 ve \u015eafa\u011f\u0131n Robotlar\u0131) da harikad\u0131r. Ve elbette, Asimov\u2019un ileriki \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n\u0131 okuyan herhangi bir okur en sonunda R. Daneel Olivaw\u2019\u0131n ba\u015f\u0131na neler geldi\u011fini bilir.<\/p>\n

[stextbox id=”info” caption=”Orijinali:” collapsing=”true” collapsed=”true”]John W. Campbell, Jr., famously said that the two genres of detective fiction and SF couldn’t be combined. He was mistaken, as Isaac Asimov eventually demonstrated for another publisher (Horace Gold at _Galaxy_) with this fine work.
\nBuilding on his robot stories, Asimov here introduces two of his most memorable characters: detectives Elijah Baley (a human) and R. Daneel Olivaw (a robot). In Asimov’s later work, these two are going to go down in galactic history. Here, they’re just solving a mystery.
\nThe tale opens in a future version of New York, but despite some nods toward the “hard-boiled” genre, Asimov actually owes more to Dame Agatha Christie than to Mickey Spillane. At any rate I won’t spoil it for you by telling you any more about it.
\nThe main reason I’m reviewing it now, in fact, is to recommend it to readers of Richard K. Morgan’s brilliant _Altered Carbon_. There’s a very short line of “mystery SF”, running through Larry Niven’s ARM stories; it starts here. If you’re at all interested in this genre, this is one you’ll want to read.
\nThe two sequels (_The Naked Sun_ and _The Robots of Dawn_) are excellent as well. And of course any reader of Asimov’s later works knows what eventually became of R. Daneel Olivaw.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

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